【雑談】サイゲにはFGOみたいなキャラゲーを作るセンスは無いよ😇
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909: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:29:26.48 ID:5DbMKTqR0
キャラゲーキャラゲーって言うけどサイゲには無理だろ😇
FGOを作りたくて作れなかった会社なんだから
FGOを作りたくて作れなかった会社なんだから
915: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:30:46.43 ID:mNnI//LHd
キャラゲーの質が~とか言いながらfgo棒で他叩くの気持ちよさそうだな
ブルアカより売れてるやつ他にも挙げたら?
ブルアカより売れてるやつ他にも挙げたら?
916: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:30:51.97 ID:EhYfrXLs0
キャラゲーの極致は🐟だよね🙄
サイゲも🐟をパクればいいのになんでしないんだ?🤔
サイゲも🐟をパクればいいのになんでしないんだ?🤔
922: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:31:59.79 ID:Ye3Hq/Rdd
そもそもキャラゲーって昔はキャラ人気しかないクソゲーに対する悪口だったんだ
サイゲがキャラ人気すらないクソゲーを出してきたことで世界が変わった
サイゲがキャラ人気すらないクソゲーを出してきたことで世界が変わった
925: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:32:39.58 ID:vnB0jzvP0
そもそもFGOで好きなキャラ使って戦闘育成が楽しいんだああできるならブルアカでも好きなキャラ使えるんで…
結論ありきの意味不明理論なんだ
結論ありきの意味不明理論なんだ
939: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:34:44.06 ID:vwTAP621a
>>925
FGOって対人あったっけ?
FGOって対人あったっけ?
971: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:39:20.40 ID:+ffK/BdAd
>>925
全然違う
fgoはすべてのコンテンツを通してマスター体験できるのが良く出来てる
そもそもシナリオで喪失するサバを自分の鯖としてガチャで召喚しなおすってデザインがめちゃくちゃ上手いのよ
全然違う
fgoはすべてのコンテンツを通してマスター体験できるのが良く出来てる
そもそもシナリオで喪失するサバを自分の鯖としてガチャで召喚しなおすってデザインがめちゃくちゃ上手いのよ
934: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:34:11.85 ID:nfQUaJnC0
マスターがサーヴァントを育ててるのなんてFGOとエクストラぐらいだろ世界観に合ってるわけではない
943: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:35:26.60 ID:vnB0jzvP0
そもそも世界観的に言うとガチャからレベル1のサーヴァント出てくるの意味不明だよ
ソシャゲだからしょうがねえだろとは思うけど世界観に合ってるんだああっていうなら見ないふりしないでもろて
ソシャゲだからしょうがねえだろとは思うけど世界観に合ってるんだああっていうなら見ないふりしないでもろて
946: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:36:03.88 ID:EhYfrXLs0
👴その昔プリコネはFGOに勝るとも劣らないキャラゲーだったのじゃ
👦👧ぷいこねすげー!
👴ふぉっふぉっふぉ
👦👧ぷいこねすげー!
👴ふぉっふぉっふぉ
952: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:36:46.40 ID:dc/1R+1Fa
>>946
👨👩で、今は?
👨👩で、今は?
949: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:36:24.03 ID:fjZ4l5tIr
つうかサイゲゲーに限っても最初に売れたモバマスがキャラゲーだったんだからそれを続ければよかったのに
まぁモバマスは過酷な対人ゲーでもあったけど今のサイゲほど対人に寄りすぎてもなかった😥
まぁモバマスは過酷な対人ゲーでもあったけど今のサイゲほど対人に寄りすぎてもなかった😥
957: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:37:22.55 ID:jCTfeyJ+d
>>949
数字メンコじみた路線でGO出せるかって言ったらさすがに無理だろ…
数字メンコじみた路線でGO出せるかって言ったらさすがに無理だろ…
963: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:38:17.17 ID:ThYPlPI7d
>>949
サイゲで最初に売れて成り上がったのが神バハだから対人しか脳のない企業なんです😅
サイゲで最初に売れて成り上がったのが神バハだから対人しか脳のない企業なんです😅
972: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:39:37.89 ID:QVlTEjOqd
>>949
ヒットの理由は過酷な対人!って分析しちゃったんだろうな・・・
ヒットの理由は過酷な対人!って分析しちゃったんだろうな・・・
953: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:37:01.65 ID:vwTAP621a
ブルアカは大人のカードで生徒募集して大人のカードで星上げして見滅ぼす世界観が課金で苦しむ現実と見事にマッチしてるよな🤗
958: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:37:22.76 ID:X9E86IVYd
サーヴァントの性能はマスターの魔力で決まるんだっけ?🤔
962: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:38:15.03 ID:5DbMKTqR0
対人あるとどうしても性能重視になりがちではある🤔
964: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:38:24.90 ID:CojpLD65d
そしてみんなfgoみたいなので稼げるならチョロいねwと思って第二のfgoを目指してなれなかった屍がそこら中に転がっとる💀
967: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:38:59.10 ID:4DjhWkEY0
メタい視点で言うとブルアカの銃持ってる設定って「ソシャゲは女の子に銃持たせておけばとりあえず売れるだろう🤤」
っていうソシャゲ特有の事情でしかないからね🤔
後付けであれこれ理由つけてるんだろうけどその辺が歪つよね🥹
っていうソシャゲ特有の事情でしかないからね🤔
後付けであれこれ理由つけてるんだろうけどその辺が歪つよね🥹
まあFGOも「主人公がどこにでもいる平凡な人間」って設定が似たようにソシャゲ特有の事情でそれが未だに足を引っ張ってるから複雑よ😵💫
987: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:41:47.62 ID:nfQUaJnC0
>>967
茸って平凡な主人公書くの向いてないよな
終局映画見て確信したわ
茸って平凡な主人公書くの向いてないよな
終局映画見て確信したわ
968: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:38:59.85 ID:jCTfeyJ+d
fgoの戦闘システム真似たやつはそこじゃねえだろ感すごかったな
969: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:39:11.75 ID:XKJ40I4f0
対人あるとユーザー同士で競い合わせて課金煽りができるからな
973: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:39:43.02 ID:ThYPlPI7d
🤓第二のFGO💢
976: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:40:24.52 ID:5nwGgwJO0
いろいろ言ってるけどfgoが強いのはエロゲオタアニメオタだった濃い信者のおっさんが支えてるヘブと同じ構造でしかない🤦♀
990: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:42:03.91 ID:fl4L4kYsp
結局第二のFGOはヘブバンだったな
ブルジ残念w
ブルジ残念w
996: 名無しのプリジ 2023/05/17(水) 13:42:59.18
fgoのしょぼい戦闘なんか好きなキャラ使っても楽しめないだろ🥺
本当に楽しいの?
本当に楽しいの?
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If you expertise sharp or capturing ache at any point in the course of the train, stop and choose for exercises that do not cause
ache. When the dumbbell incline press is carried out frequently, you will develop a extra well-balanced chest
and shoulder musculature, helping to maintain the shoulder joint
secure and strong. You can also be thinking about
my barbell vs dumbbell bench press weight comparability. 2- Beginning along with
your elbows bent, press the weights up to arms’ size after which lower them
again. 1– Seize one dumbbell and set up for the dumbbell bench press as
normal.
Whether you select neutral grip or parallel grip bench press, the key is to find the variation that finest aligns along with your health objectives
and physical capabilities. By understanding the benefits and disadvantages of every grip, you
possibly can optimize your chest development and achieve your required outcomes.
Free weight presses supply a symphony of muscle activation, honing not simply power but also steadiness and coordination. On the
flip facet, the normal bench press is the bedrock of brute pressure, setting the
stage for unrivaled mass and energy gains. Collectively, they write a
hit story on your chest workout narrative. This comprehensive guide guarantees a deep dive into the nuances
of each workouts. We’ll discover how alternating dumbbell lifts and barbell presses can shatter plateaus and amplify gains.
The flat dumbbell press is an outstanding exercise for creating your chest, shoulders, and triceps,
providing a balanced and symmetrical higher physique. To
acquire a deeper understanding of chest muscle anatomy and biomechanics, try this complete information on ExRx.net.
Moreover, the exercise engages stabilizing muscular tissues, such as the serratus anterior, to
keep up management and steadiness throughout the motion. This comprehensive muscle activation makes the flat dumbbell
press an essential component of any upper-body workout.
When it comes to constructing higher physique measurement and power, the
bench press is one of the handiest workouts you can do.
Strength coaching is supposed to arrange you to select up heavy things.
Different adjustments that are discovered within the variations of the
dumbbell bench press could additionally be in relation to
the precise sort of muscular activation they might incur.
Remember, whether or not you’re performing a dumbbell press or a bench press, the confluence of dedication, sensible training, and restoration protocols is foundational in your success.
The trick, though, is deciding on the right angle to work the
muscle tissue you wish to strengthen. Usually speaking,
you must set your bench between 30- and 45-degrees. The 45-degree angle will hit extra
of your shoulders, whereas the 30-degree angle will goal the pecs to a greater diploma.
Many of these do not even need a bench, but they’ll
nonetheless assist to strengthen your pecs and improve your bench
press.
It’s a key carry for many who need to steadiness their pectorals and
improve chest energy to beat plateaus with the barbell bench press.
When it involves selecting the appropriate weights, it’s essential
to begin with a load that permits you to perform the train with a full range of movement
and proper method. Over time, as your strength improves, progressively enhance
the load to continue challenging your muscular tissues and stimulate development.
It’s better to err on the side of warning and choose a slightly lighter weight you could control than to risk harm with a weight that’s
too heavy for your present stage of power. Bear In Mind to focus on proper type, gradually increase
the load, and listen to your body to stop accidents.
Mix the flat chest press with a well-rounded workout routine, proper nutrition, and sufficient rest to optimize your progress and obtain your health objectives.
In the shoulder joint, there’s horizontal flexion (adduction) by which the
higher arms transfer perpendicular to the trunk to a position in front of and
above the chest. In the shoulder girdle, there’s abduction of the scapulae during which the muscular tissues pull the scapulae away from the backbone toward the sides of the ribs.
In the elbow joint, there may be extension by which the forearms transfer away from the upper arms till the arms are absolutely extended.
The anterior deltoids, located at the entrance of the shoulder, are closely
involved in the flat chest press. They help in stabilizing the shoulders and contribute to the pressing movement.
Weight-bearing exercises like the flat chest press stimulate bone growth
and increase bone density. This could be particularly
useful for people susceptible to osteoporosis and different bone-related circumstances.
Your arms should be fully extended, and the dumbbells ought to be
over your chest. The Flat Dumbbell Bench Press is a versatile exercise that may be tailored to
your health journey, whether you’re seeking to build muscle, increase power, or improve endurance.
To maximize the effectiveness of this exercise, it’s essential to establish a
workout routine that aligns together with your particular targets.
While having a spotter provides an extra layer of safety,
you can still carry out the flat bench press without one by using safety bars or a Smith machine,
which provide built-in safety mechanisms. Sure, warming up is
important to organize your muscular tissues and joints
for the train. Carry Out dynamic stretches and light-weight sets earlier than starting your working
sets.
Control the tempo of the movement (e.g., three seconds to decrease, 1 second to press up) to increase time beneath tension. When lifting heavy, at all times use
a spotter or safety pins on the bench rack for added security.
No matter which one you do, ensure to excellent the form before stacking on the load.
Skilled coaches advocate for 7-9 hours of sleep for athletes to ensure restoration and enchancment in pressing exercises.
As An Alternative of overlifting, scale back the weight you’re lifting till you can complete the exercise with none bouncing.
Deciding On a weight that is too heavy usually results in other common errors, which may undercut your efforts or lead to damage.
If you begin with the best weight for you, you will be less more doubtless to encounter the opposite points talked about under.
Each variation changes the exercise to target a different a half of the
physique. This is a typical mistake when athletes are bench urgent too much weight.
Throughout a dumbbell bench press, the weights ought to
stay above the athlete’s chest and transfer straight up and down.
Utilizing too much weight can prevent an athlete from using standard dumbbell bench press type,
nevertheless it can be dangerous.
Be that as it could, you might be following a program that only has you hitting bench press
once every week and in addition overhead press as soon as every week.
You can also be at a extra advanced stage where you want
more time for recovery between periods, so training bench press as quickly as per week is greatest.
General, the same is true for alternating dumbbell chest presses
as well. Preserving your legs up like this can significantly improve the demand in your core stability, which
in flip allows for higher levels of strength.
That said, because you can’t drive pressure from
your feet, you won’t have the power to lift as a lot.
If you are aiming to develop the upper chest, don’t compete in strength sports activities, and want to limit
stress on the shoulder, you want to think about the incline bench press.
Sometimes an incline bench press is carried out along with your torso at a 30-degree or 45-degree incline.
A 2020 research found that an inclination of 30 levels is ideal for activating the higher chest.
Anything above 45 degrees recruited more anterior delt and less chest.
Alter the incline for bench variation to sculpt the chest region. Embarking on a full-range motion in dumbbell presses ensures thorough muscle
activation. Modify rest intervals to shift focus among hypertrophy,
endurance, or strength-building efforts.
You can do a one rep max with barbell bench press (as you can with barbell squats, deadlifts, and OHP).
Total, if you want a muscular upper physique,
the bench press is a must. The bench press is like 1/3 the
battle for higher physique hypertrophy. This makes it an extremely environment friendly exercise, as most huge compound workout routines are.
If you have additional questions in regards to the flat, incline, and decline bench press, drop a comment below
or reach out via Instagram (@jake_boly or @that_fit_friend).
If your objectives revolve around constructing well-rounded urgent energy and pec mass, then it’s a good idea to follow and make the most
of all three of these variations.
Already know concerning the flat bench press and wish to perfect the form?
Or on the lookout for an train that’s glorious for chest and chest
day, properly flat bench press is among the finest chest
workout routines. When accomplished appropriately, a flat bench dumbbell press
has immense benefits on your energy and endurance.
The flat dumbbell press is a robust and versatile train that ought to
be a staple in any chest workout routine. It not solely enhances chest power and muscle symmetry but additionally engages supporting
muscular tissues for a well-rounded upper-body workout.
By mastering correct kind, avoiding common errors, and incorporating advanced variations, you’ll
have the ability to frequently problem yourself and achieve
impressive outcomes. The dumbbell bench press or
flat dumbbell press is arguably one of the most in style health club workouts used for complete chest development.
Fuse dumbbell presses with plyometric exercises, like push-ups, to augment explosive energy.
Incorporate supersets, pairing bench presses with rows for balanced higher body coaching.
Compound units with shoulder or tricep work can additional advance energy
and mass features.
Most of the time, people are talking about the barbell bench press.
After all, it’s a classic chest exercise, and it’s additionally the second raise contested in the sport of powerlifting.
This really is determined by your fitness objectives and your exercise program.
Most newbie strength programs will involve preserving
the same rep range and rising the intensity over time, with
intensity sometimes being the burden load. However, intermediate and
superior lifters and applications will probably want to combine up rep
and load ranges. The bench press obviously does a
unbelievable job of building these muscle tissue.
It is crucial to have a strong basis when completing a dumbbell bench press.
The correct type will maximize your strength when pressing the weight away from you.
If you fail to use an acceptable type, your gains from the dumbbell bench press might be limited.
In conclusion, the Flat Dumbbell Bench Press is a flexible and efficient exercise
for creating power and muscle mass within the upper body.
Correct form, breathing, and weight selection are
essential for maximizing the advantages and minimizing the chance of damage.
The flat bench press is a highly efficient train for creating upper physique
energy and muscle mass. By mastering the correct approach and incorporating it into your coaching routine, you presumably can achieve spectacular outcomes.
The dumbbell press lets you specifically goal chest muscles, providing you with higher strength and
definition. As A Outcome Of you want to balance the
dumbbells individually, it also contributes to
robust core development. You can do dumbbell presses
on a regular flat weight bench or overhead while standing.
Variations of the dumbbell press add depth to your exercise
routine.
Having a coaching associate at hand the dumbbells
off to you is best. These allowed you to hang the dumbells off an overhead
bar by hooks to find a way to grab them from the reclined place on the
bench. Unfortunately, the producer discontinued them so, except you
might have a partner or can recruit a friendly individual at the gym, you’re by yourself.
With over 15 years of expertise within the health business,
Eugene combines his intensive information of power training and nutritional
science to empower individuals on their journey to
wellness. His philosophy centers around the perception that
anyone can achieve their health objectives by way of dedication, correct
steering, and a holistic method to health.
“Mastery of approach trumps heavy lifting.” He emphasizes the
importance of understanding the intricacies of each movement
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By focusing on kind and intentionality, he believes anybody can unlock their true potential in the gym.
Usually talking, a complicated lifter should have the power to incline bench press with dumbbells that weigh one hundred fifteen to 130%
(both dumbbells combined) of their body weight for
a single repetition.
The dumbbells should come together on the top of each rep.
Straighten your arms, however don’t lock your elbows.
Locking your arms means your joints are supporting the weight somewhat than your muscular tissues.
You could discover that sure variations are hard on your joints or simply ineffective.
All in all, if you wish to construct an impressive chest, and upper physique horizontal pushing
strength, the bench press is the best and
environment friendly means to do so. However, you’ll be preserving the dumbbells at
your centerline all through the train. The dumbbells will
keep pressed together and you’ll merely press up and down in a straight path.
The act of compacting the dumbbells together throughout the motion does a extremely nice job of keeping lots of pressure on your pecs.
Right Here is the diagram from earlier again, but
this time with anterior deltoid muscle activity
added. Make positive the path of the bar isn’t too low—over the mouth and neck region—when racking or unracking.
Transfer the load to and from the rack along with your arms extended, not low throughout
the neck and face. As Soon As you’ve finished your required
reps, place the bar on the rack.
A respectable dumbbell bench press for the common male beginner is
around 45% of physique weight for a single repetition and each dumbbells combined.
Intermediates and superior lifters should be able to lift around 90% and 130% (respectively) for 1 rep.
As good because the dumbbell bench press is, should you do
it over and over again, your muscle tissue will quickly adapt, and it’ll cease being such a productive exercise.
It’s beneficial for athletes hoping to overcome a plateau with the barbell bench press
or looking to stability the chest muscular tissues. Additionally, this exercise provides athletes a larger
vary of movement than the traditional barbell press.
Remember to regulate the load and repetitions based on your health
level and targets. This sample exercise routine incorporates the flat
chest press as the first train and consists of extra workouts
to target other muscle teams in the upper physique. It offers a balanced method to strength and muscle growth.
One of the most impactful workout routines to construct strength in these muscular tissues is the flat bench dumbbell press.
Whether your aim is to build muscle, enhance energy, or enhance general upper-body functionality,
the flat dumbbell press is a useful addition to your
training regimen. By progressively increasing the load, the flat
bench press stimulates hypertrophy, resulting in muscle progress.
It’s a key train for anybody aiming to build a a lot bigger and stronger chest.
Yes you want to combine in both dumbbell press and barbell bench press.
This will assist enhance your strength general
and have the ability to break by way of plateaus when wanted.
Now should you only have dumbbells it is nice to stay with them until you reach a plateau then change it up and work in those barbell presses.
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